1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 We needless to say that on rainy nights like this, on the 16th of September, 20 years exactly 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:16,000 to the date when so many of us in 1936 were sure that the great step of the Great Pyramid, 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:24,000 which we were entering, was the advent of a new dispensation, 20 years later, for having a man with us, 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 that really helped to formulate such a crusade. 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Certainly, we're very happy to welcome you here tonight. 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 It's been a long, long time I realized between sauce and meat, 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,000 and yet I must repeat for the benefit of those people who are new and who are here for the first time 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:50,000 or who are here for only the second time, that our type of discovery into the field of the unidentified flying objects 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,000 is far different from anything that we have ever known here before. 10 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,000 You cannot find a pattern. You cannot find a tangible continuity. 11 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,000 You cannot find or discover something in here that is so specific that you can say, 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:11,000 at last I've got it, I know what it is, and my friends come down and look it over. 13 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Two years ago, when we had the first Saucer Club meetings, we were so sure we had the answer. 14 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,000 The thing was so clear, clarified there could be no mistake in it. 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,000 These were beings from other planets, high celestial majestic. 16 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 We don't disbelieve that at all. 17 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:37,000 But in the two years time, all of the experiences that many of us, as laymen researchers have gone through, 18 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,000 the disillusionment, and if you want the real word, a little bit of heartbreak, 19 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:48,000 because you're so sure that this statement is accurate, that that tape is going to be right, 20 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 and that that person's witness is something that you can definitely depend upon, 21 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:01,000 only to find that there's somebody with a rather unconscious feel of glamorizing, 22 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,000 of building a lily, of confusing mental experiences, 23 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,000 and they won't imagine a just subjective state with objective reality. 24 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:16,000 A subject that has been called everything from crackpotism to escapism, 25 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,000 to the most profound subject to have hit this planet in 2000 years, 26 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000 is a thing that we have tried to find a very clear path to. 27 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 It hasn't been easy. 28 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Our Detroit Flying Saucer Club can definitely, if you want to know what we stand for, 29 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 it's very simple. 30 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,000 We have no intelligence, aspiring look into this subject, 31 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:47,000 without objectivity, without any motivations, no isms, no secret religions to cultivate. 32 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,000 We have no dues or secret rights, and we know something is happening. 33 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 But we believe that saucers are part of an evolution, 34 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,000 that they're a normal thing, that this is part of a reality, as it were. 35 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 A little overtones and implications, very obviously. 36 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Many of us have been so impressed with it, that it has altered our lives visibly. 37 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 When I was giving a talk in Windsor about six months ago, 38 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 a gentleman came up to me and said, 39 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Mr. Mayday, just what the saucers has done to me, 40 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 and making me have a new slant on life is worth all of this. 41 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 I think many of us feel that way. 42 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,000 There's been something gained, something, some great lift. 43 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 I met this in my barber's chair on Saturday afternoon yesterday 44 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 to the man who was supposed to be going here. 45 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:42,000 He told me himself that if the saucers could be proven to be true, 46 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 that we were visited by other planets, 47 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 that the implications were so great, 48 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 he said that it would change this world overnight. 49 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 But we so agree. 50 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 But it's not going to be a transition like that. 51 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 And I don't want to get in and give the talk for our speaker tonight, 52 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,000 but I want to plant the thought of the visually flying saucer club 53 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,000 that stands for an attitude of mine, for a definite conviction, 54 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 for a camaraderie that you cannot put down in certain statutes, 55 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 covenants, and judgments. 56 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,000 But we do believe that we have specific and definite and tangible 57 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 evidences that can't be controversial. 58 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,000 The five sightings that I've seen, three of which were unwitnessed, 59 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,000 have made such an impression upon me that nothing changed my attitude. 60 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 I've had the best meaning of religious analyses tell me, 61 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 well Henry, you know, after all, you're progressing upward, 62 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 and possibly you got into that psychic field, 63 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 and you thought you saw that flash of blue across your horizon. 64 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Well, I know all about that too. 65 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 But there wasn't any imagination, there wasn't any subjectivity, 66 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 it was just as objective as this audience listening to me tonight. 67 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 And several of you know that that's true in your own cases. 68 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 And now, leading from the gentlemen, 69 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,000 the man that we're bringing to you tonight has an enviable history. 70 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,000 He is one of those diamonds not in the rough, 71 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 but diamonds that has been roughed up, 72 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 in the way that he has been able to carry a conviction through 73 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 to the point that his facets have become very sharp, 74 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 and to the point where he's able to give a reflection 75 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 and an unbiased opinion that is almost second to none, 76 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,000 and today in the radio station at Indianapolis, the TV station WTTV, 77 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,000 he is one of the most popular newscasters in the Midwest 78 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 with a waiting list to get his time. 79 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 On the way back from Martin View, Arkansas, 80 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 the other afternoon after hearing Brian Edwards 81 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 at a rotary club luncheon in Toronto, 82 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 I was very much impressed to listen to one of the commentators 83 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 talk about this commentator, 84 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 to make a very humorous point at our good friend Mr. Arthur Godfrey, 85 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 and across the imagination of so many thousands of people 86 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 that make a thought for five minutes. 87 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 That's Frank Edwards. 88 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Nonconformist, original, spontaneous. 89 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,000 For five years from 1949 to 1954, 90 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 an estimated 13 million people 91 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,000 made it a nightly ritual to wait for the news commentations of Frank Edwards. 92 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,000 1952, 1953, and 1954, 93 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,000 the motion picture Daily Poll shows that the radio and television editors of this country 94 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,000 rated Ed Murrow, Frank Edwards and Lo O'Thomas, 95 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 as a nation's three top newsmen. 96 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Suddenly then in 1954, and many of you who told me about this, 97 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 many of you remember the incident, 98 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Frank Edwards disappeared from the nation's airways. 99 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 The official explanation handed out by his sponsors did not explain 100 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 nor satisfy his millions of listeners. 101 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Many of whom, Mr. Edwards, had become the last nationwide source of information 102 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,000 on the continuing cycle of unidentified flying objects. 103 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 The court of last resort that actually went on the air, 104 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 stuck his neck out and told, as many of us wrote him say, 105 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,000 unidentified witness fighting, Arkansas, 106 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Maine, in Washington, and wherever it was. 107 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,000 On this subject, he stands alone as a veteran and prominent newsman 108 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,000 who had the courage to tell the American public what was happening 109 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 despite the restrictions placed upon him by his sponsors. 110 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,000 And it was Frank Edwards who caused no end of consternation 111 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 to alter Wenshaw and the other commentators. 112 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,000 In the school, down on Keyhomes, flying saucers are real story 113 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 before it broke in True Magazine in 1949. 114 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Ladies and gentlemen, we're so very happy tonight to bring you Frank Edwards. 115 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Thank you, you brave people. 116 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Ladies and gentlemen, before I start my little dissertation here tonight, 117 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 I'd like to explain that I'm rather hard of hearing 118 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,000 and I would appreciate it very much if you would applaud again a little bit louder. 119 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Thank you, Morris Jessen. 120 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I understand that I have some guests here in the audience tonight 121 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 from the Intelligence Center at Dayton, Ohio. 122 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 So I'm going to open my program by saying, 123 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Mr. Mady, ladies and gentlemen, 124 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:43,000 and Air Force intelligence officers in civilian clothing. 125 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 I hope I make it worth their while. 126 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to make it quite plain that I'm coming here to you tonight, 127 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 not as a theorist because frankly, I have never seen a flying saucer. 128 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 It's also true that I've never seen an atomic bomb, nor a hydrogen bomb. 129 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 I haven't seen an arctic nor a ploughless, 130 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 but I do believe that those things exist 131 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 and that somewhere someone has seen them 132 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 and I'm willing to take their word for it 133 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 because I regard some of them as credible witnesses. 134 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 The same thing goes true of the so-called flying saucer, 135 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 but I would also like to say this, 136 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 that I do agree with the Air Force, and you boys can take that down, 137 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I agree with the Air Force that there are no such things as flying saucers. 138 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:36,000 That unfortunately is a slang term applied to a very distinctive type of aerial phenomena 139 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 by some newspapers reporters back in 1947. 140 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,000 I agree with the Air Force that there are no such things as flying saucers. 141 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:49,000 And I also agree with the Air Force that it is much more interesting to spend millions of dollars 142 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 investigating the things under their official name of unidentified flying objects. 143 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Incidentally, our nation is only one of 30 nations at the present time conducting intensive, 144 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,000 and let me say expensive investigations of unidentified flying objects. 145 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,000 In a few minutes I'm going to tell you that we have already had some results, 146 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,000 some technological results and progress as a result of this investigation. 147 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,000 It's been well-replied, and at least a couple of respects. 148 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 I'm going to that in just a moment. 149 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:31,000 First time I ever heard of anything that could possibly be referred to as a UFO was back in the 20s. 150 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,000 I flew around with an old flying surface, and we flew Jenny's old JM-4s and 5s. 151 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 We had 94-power engines. 152 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,000 We had so many wires on the wings that you could raise canaries in there and never lose a bird. 153 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And if you had a real good cop-aster and plenty of room, you could sometimes get into the air in half a mile. 154 00:10:52,000 --> 00:11:00,000 And in those days, one of the fellows that I frequently ran into was a fabled character named Bert Acosta. 155 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Bert was the fellow who said he could fly a barn door, but had enough power on it. 156 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 I believe he could have done it. 157 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 There must have been times when he tried. 158 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Bert died recently. He was one of the fabled pioneers of the days of barn-storming flying. 159 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,000 And one night we were all sitting around in the hangar on a gender, 160 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:24,000 and we were talking, and Bert was telling, an experience that he had had a month or so before, 161 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 and he'd been flying somewhere down in the Southwest. 162 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:34,000 And he said all of a sudden, he noticed about half a dozen things flying off his right wing a couple of hundred yards away. 163 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 And he said they looked like man-old covers. 164 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,000 And he told how they flew along beside him for five minutes or so. 165 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 They had no trouble keeping up with him. 166 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:51,000 In fact, they loveled along beside him and finally turned, changed course, and flew away. 167 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,000 He said he had never seen anything like it, and had no idea what the things were, 168 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 but they were very real. 169 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,000 And none of the other fliers there, many of whom were veterans, had seen or heard of any such thing before. 170 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,000 So the business of the flying man-old covers that Bert of course had talked about, 171 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,000 dropped out of sight, and I never even thought about them as a matter of fact. 172 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Until June of 1947, when a story came in on the newswire, 173 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:29,000 to the effect that a railroad engineer in Cedar Rapidsile had reported that as he was getting off his engine in the railroad yards there, 174 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:39,000 he was operating a switch engine, he happened to look up in the air and he said he saw nine circular shining objects flying along in a string like wild geese, 175 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,000 and flying faster, he said, than any airplane he had ever seen. 176 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Well, he got about five or six lines on the news. 177 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:58,000 The news wires in the matter was dismissed because the editors of the news wires do not regard switch engine engineers as the Thoregies' Ontario phenomenon. 178 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And they let the man have his say very briefly and forgot it. 179 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:09,000 The next day the storm broke because the next day was the day that came aboard, on the Boise, Idaho, a civilian flier, 180 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:18,000 saw the same or some similar objects, and then as you know that was the thing that broke today. 181 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Because from then on the things were seen all over the place for several months, 182 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:29,000 tens of thousands of people reported that they had witnessed such objects which performed in unconventional manner, 183 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 and the news wires were found. 184 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Because obviously something was going on up there, just what it was, nobody seemed to know. 185 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:47,000 The Athos immediately stepped in and said that these things were hallucinations. 186 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:56,000 They couldn't have picked the worst time to make their announcement because on the day they made their statement on July the 3rd, 1947, 187 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:05,000 and on July the 4th, 1947, about 10,000 people, at least in the city of Port Monoragan, 188 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:11,000 watched these hallucinations circling around overhead and turning clips in the air. 189 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Even to this day the Air Force maintains that the air is full of hallucinations. 190 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,000 It has been my contention that the Air Force is full of hallucinations. 191 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:35,000 I'd like to make it plain, for the benefit of our guests who have come a great distance to be here, 192 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:48,000 that I don't criticize the Air Force for taking the position that it might be well to keep some of the facts of this story from the public. 193 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:57,000 I don't know as much about this as the Air Force does, and I don't know anyone who does know as much about it as the Air Force does. 194 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:08,000 So it's quite possible there are some aspects of this matter which make it advisable to keep it undercover at the present time. 195 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:15,000 However, I think the Air Force has been particularly stupid in the manner in which they have kept it undercover 196 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:21,000 by pretending that the things don't exist when there are millions of witnesses and no better. 197 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 And I happen to be one of the witnesses. 198 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,000 I say that because I have seen some of the material in the Air Force's own files, 199 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,000 I've seen some of their films and some of their still pictures, 200 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 I've seen the notations that they had on them, 201 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:43,000 and up until the night that 68 of these things appeared over Washington DC in one night in August of 1952, 202 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:50,000 I had no trouble at all going to the Pentagon and going to any one of several friends that are in the Pentagon, 203 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:56,000 some of them generals, and going in and being briefed on what was going on. 204 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,000 But when 68 of these things appeared in one night over the nation's capital, 205 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:11,000 and when not one single jet took off to intercept them because they were under orders not to take off to leave these things on, 206 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:18,000 when that happened, the lid went on and the story that 68 of these things appeared over the nation's capital on that particular night 207 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:25,000 was never published until I published it in a magazine story in November of 1954. 208 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,000 If you would like to look up the record on it, 209 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,000 you'll find it in a book that's published by the Civil and Aeronautics Administration, 210 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,000 distributed to the radar control operators of the nation for limited distribution, 211 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:45,000 it says, and the title of the book it is, how to identify and track unidentified crime objects. 212 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,000 There are also nations, ladies and gentlemen, but there are governments bringing books about them. 213 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Well, actually, what this booklet does, it discusses a great many of these stockings around Washington DC, 214 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:03,000 particularly those of mid-July 1952, what about a dozen of the things came over. 215 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,000 About a dozen of them came over one night, they were tracked by a radar, they were seen visually, 216 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,000 they followed the planes in and according to the CAA's own booklet, 217 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,000 the pilots got good looks of the things as they followed them in and out of the airport. 218 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Some of them hovered, some of them went around the Capitol building, 219 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,000 some went over the monument and the White House and over the deep frays, 220 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,000 and circled all around there, they were seen plainly. 221 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:35,000 There was no question about them being there, and as a matter of fact, the officials were so concerned about it, 222 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,000 that on the following morning they issued a shoot-em-down order. 223 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Why didn't they shoot them down the first night? 224 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:49,000 They didn't shoot them down because the jets couldn't catch them and they've never been able to catch one yet. 225 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 The jets couldn't catch them the next night they showed up. 226 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 The jets didn't go up after them, they didn't go up with their shoot-em-down order 227 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:05,000 for the simple reason that Alfred Einstein and others of comparable standing 228 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,000 heard about the shoot-em-down order because the story was on the front pages all over the world. 229 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:17,000 They heard about the shoot-em-down order and they personally got in touch with the little man in the White House, 230 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 and I know what Mr. Einstein told him. 231 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:26,000 He said, Mr. President, anyone who can cross millions of miles of space 232 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 will be able to take care of himself after he gets there. 233 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Don't start something you can't finish. 234 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,000 That was one time that give him hell, Harry, decided it would be better not to give him any hell. 235 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:50,000 The order was issued that morning at 10.15, a progress ended that afternoon at 5.00. 236 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,000 The planes stayed on the ground that night, the objects came in, they flew in formations 237 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:02,000 between the National Airport and Andrews Field, and they maneuvered around there for a couple of hours and went away. 238 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:12,000 A little later, a professor named Menzel came up with the theory that all they had seen was some reflections in hot air. 239 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:18,000 And I think that's as good a criticism of his theory as I can think of myself. 240 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:26,000 He's been thoroughly deflated by other fighters, and the airport itself admitted that Dr. Menzel was off the beam a little. 241 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:34,000 As a matter of fact, the conditions necessary for his theory to have proven correct did not exist by a wise margin. 242 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,000 I was, as I said, able to go in there and see all these things. 243 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 I had no trouble about it. 244 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 I saw some of the pictures that have since been released and what you folks have probably seen. 245 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 The ones that great falls Montana, the train walking Utah pictures, and a lot of others. 246 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I think the best still picture of one of these objects that I ever saw was one taken by a farmer named Paul Trent, at McMenzel, Oregon. 247 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,000 He took it with a little folding codec. 248 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:07,000 He got two shots of the thing that had hovered over a field in back of his house just about twilight. 249 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000 And the structure of the object is clearly seen. 250 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 It's at a perfectly flat bottom. 251 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:23,000 As a matter of fact, it looked pretty much like a man's sailor stole half with a very tiny little antenna sticking out of the top of it. 252 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,000 It's very interesting because a few nights later, it was not known that Mr. Trent had taken this picture. 253 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 He didn't know what he had, and he had it developed at a drug store. 254 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 And they looked at it. 255 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,000 He and his wife, they couldn't figure out what the devil had bought, so they let the kids play with the negatives, 256 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,000 and they finally ended up under the couch in the front room. 257 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:51,000 And the pictures were thrown out in the ground with some other things, and it was at least a month later before anybody even knew that he had these things, and then purely by accident. 258 00:20:51,000 --> 00:21:06,000 But on the night of Memorial Day, 1950, an American Airlines pilot flying an EC6 going out of the Washington National Airport on route to Tulsa was climbing over Mount Vernon. 259 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,000 And he was about 20, 25 miles out of Washington. 260 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:18,000 He was at an altitude of about 7,000 feet, and he said he was doing about 175 miles an hour still climbing. 261 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:29,000 When the court pilot said what the devil is that, and they had a rummage in between the clouds and themselves, they could see what he said looked like a flying submarine. 262 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 He said it looked like the conning tower of a little submarine in the middle of the left. 263 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Suddenly the thing sped around to the left, and he noticed the plane down, and they immediately called the airport and told them that he was seeing some sort of an object, 264 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,000 and it was an unconventional thing of some sort, and they said yes, we're getting a blip on it, there's something better. 265 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:56,000 And he swung the plane around a little bit, he banks to the left to keep it in sight, and all of a sudden the court pilot said, my God, here it is over on the right of us. 266 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,000 So he grabbed the wheel and swung the plane back to the other end, I don't know what the passengers thought about all this. 267 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,000 And here was this object trying out their right wing, and he estimated it was about half a mile away. 268 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:18,000 It circled them once, it was seen by the pilot and court pilot, and also on the radar screen at National Airport, it circled them once and then sped away to the east and disappeared. 269 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:27,000 And he reported that it looked like an conning tower of a little submarine, and of course it came out in the papers next day and I have the clipings for the file. 270 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Now they're seeing flying submarines. 271 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Well it found it pretty silly until these pictures showed up some months later, which had been taken by this farmer called Trayvon at McMindville, Oregon, and there in silhouette was a little object that really did look like the conning tower of a small submarine, one seen at that particular angle. 272 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:57,000 In those days you could, I had no trouble going over to the, going to go on and seeing these things as it came in, but after the, after the objects came over Washington and caused so much consternation and excitement there, 273 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:03,000 the silence group took over and then I was no longer welcome at the Pentagon. 274 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,000 When Major Keyho's second book came out, it was called Flying Fossils from outer space. 275 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,000 There was a program on the Dumont television network called Author Meets the Critics. 276 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:24,000 And it was a program where the author went on there and became the target for a lot of very pointed and off time nasty criticism from various critics. 277 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000 And Major Keyho's case was no exception. 278 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 I was on with him. 279 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Mr. William Peterson was the moderator on the program. 280 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Mr. Willie Lay, whom you just saw there in the movie, the one of the founders of the V2 rocket, the German rocket society, 281 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:50,000 was the man who was taking the view that flying saucers and unidentified flying objects and all the rest of it were all bunked. 282 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,000 And he was on there to debunk the Major Keyho and his book. 283 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Now that particular program went out to 21 television stations each week. 284 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000 And all the night, all the week preceding the time we were to appear, 285 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:15,000 they publicized the fact that Major Keyho and Frank Edwards and Willie Lay would be on the program the following week to discuss unidentified flying objects 286 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,000 and in particular to discuss critically Major Keyho's book. 287 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,000 The night before that particular broadcast, a few minutes past midnight, 288 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,000 a DC6 with 27 passengers aboard was coming out of Philadelphia. 289 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,000 He was en route to Washington. He was about 20 or 25 minutes away from Washington. 290 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,000 He was flying at 8,000 feet above the Conowing Gordam. 291 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:46,000 He had just reported to Washington and to the Baltimore Airport that all of us well expected to land in Washington such and such a time. 292 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:56,000 He had just terminated that particular routine broadcast when both the pilot and co-pilot noticed something sliding out of a cloud bank ahead of them. 293 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:03,000 All that they saw was that it was a disc shaped metallic looking object that glided in the moonlight. 294 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,000 It had no rings on it. No visible means of propulsion. 295 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,000 They were coming up on it so rapidly they were flying at about 245 miles an hour according to the pilot's report. 296 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:19,000 They were coming up on this thing so rapidly that the pilot was afraid of a collision and he said that the co-pilot flipped on the wing light. 297 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000 The co-pilot had already anticipated the movement and flipped the wing lights on. 298 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:31,000 They had been on about two seconds when this object turned a brilliant blinding stream of light light into the cockpit. 299 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000 The pilot could tell if the object was coming at him at terrific speed. 300 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:43,000 He thought it was a collision and he threw this plane with its load of passengers into a steep dive as steep as he dared to and still hold the wings. 301 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 He dived 5,000 feet before he could pull the plane out of. 302 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Now it's most unusual to have a pilot diving a passenger plane, a foreign passenger plane with a load of passengers. 303 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,000 That's only done in cases of extreme emergency and this was just such a case. 304 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000 He dived about 5,000 feet before he could pull out of it. 305 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:08,000 He knew that there was trouble back in the cabin because the passengers were all piled up in the aisles on top of each other. 306 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000 The co-pilot got up and went back there. 307 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000 The pilot took over the ship. The object whatever it was was gone by that time. 308 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000 They called ahead to Washington and told him what had happened. 309 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Told him to get ambulances and doctors out of the airport. 310 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,000 The plane arrived there a few minutes before one. 311 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 The doctors and ambulances were there. 312 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,000 My leg man as we call him, my personal reporter was also on the scene. 313 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,000 We had arrangements made to take care of emergencies like this. 314 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,000 He was on the scene. He had to hold his eyes open with one of his thumb and finger but he was there. 315 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000 He saw what went on. He had the report from me the next morning. 316 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Now fortunately none of these people on the plane were badly injured. 317 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 A few of them were scratched up a little and a couple of them had to have some tape on them. 318 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,000 But they were able to proceed and the plane was alright. It was able to proceed. 319 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 But this was a very, very important case. 320 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:05,000 It appeared in one issue of the Washington Post the following morning. 321 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 It appeared in the first issue that came out after the incident. 322 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:17,000 It was told out of there. It never appeared in any other newspaper or any other program, broadcast program except mine. 323 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:24,000 That as I said was the night before we were to go to New York to appear on this Dumont television network. 324 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,000 I put my program on the air with this incident in it. 325 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:35,000 We went on to appear on this Dumont network program. We appeared on a network of one station. 326 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000 We've been cut off of everything else although they'd advertised it. 327 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,000 And plenty of people were listening and calling the stations and demanding to know why we weren't on. 328 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Stations were notified a few minutes before broadcast time that the network would be unable to deliver this program. 329 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,000 And they were throwing in old Hoot Gibson movies and everything else. 330 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,000 A similar cultural level of course after maintaining these levels. 331 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Keoh-Han and Willie Lee and I went on in New York. 332 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Well, I have to admit that Mr. Lee taking the position that he did was able to give us a pretty rough time. 333 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:17,000 However, I had a letter in my pocket which I'd received a few weeks before from a group of the top businesses in the United States. 334 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 These are men who are internationally famous. 335 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Well, they're working in the field of physics and particularly that of nuclear physics. 336 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 I had this letter in my pocket and I was waiting for Mr. Lee. 337 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000 So we got about halfway through the program and he was giving Major Keoh a hard way to go. 338 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,000 He kept insisting that Major Keoh show him a piece of a flying saucer. 339 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000 And the measure didn't have any wisdom at the moment. However, I happened to have this letter. 340 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,000 And I said to Mr. Lee, I said, Mr. Lee, I have a letter with me. 341 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:54,000 I'm not permitted to read the entire letter to you, but I do have permission of the writers of the five men who have signed it. 342 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:02,000 I do have permission to show you the letterhead and to show you the signatures of the men who wrote it. 343 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:09,000 And after I show this to you with your permission, I would like to read just one sentence out of the letter. 344 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000 So I showed him the letterhead and his eyes popped open. 345 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 I showed him the signatures and his jaw dropped. 346 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000 And I said, now Mr. Lee, do I have your permission to read one sentence out of this? 347 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Well, I don't mean, yes. 348 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 So I read one sentence from the sentence that I read with them. 349 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,000 After six years of analyzing and evaluating the material on this matter, 350 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,000 it was a matter for these two us, by the United States government and other sources, 351 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:52,000 we, the undersigned, are of the unanimous opinion that these unidentified flying objects are interplanetary devices developed and operated by intelligent beings of a very high order. 352 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Well, it would be a magnificent understatement to say the effect of the wind out of Mr. Willie Lane's sails. 353 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000 He was all outside from that order, we couldn't stir up any argument with him. 354 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000 And this Peterson had to take over as the critic. 355 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:12,000 He thought Willie was with us. He didn't want any trouble with the five guys who had signed that letter. 356 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Not only that, after the program he got in the cab with me and rode from the Dumont studio, got to the airport out of the board. 357 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:27,000 He had questioning me all the way on specific details concerning these particular objects. 358 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:38,000 And as you noticed Mr. Willie, who appeared on this movie actually, is my personal urging, he didn't have a great deal to say. 359 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:45,000 He wasn't particularly opposed to the whole idea. He was just sort of throwing around with it, trying to earn his fee. 360 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 And I think he did very well. 361 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000 I broadcast a great many of these reports. 362 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Oh, I wouldn't say a great many, but I broadcast on an average of about one a week. 363 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:02,000 If I considered that it was a worthwhile report from a credible source, I was sponsored at that time by the American Federation of Lakers. 364 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,000 That's where my book got the title, 10 Million Sponsors. They used to say every night, 365 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 but I had more sponsors than any other commentator on the air, actually. 366 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,000 In the long history of broadcasting, I'm the only fellow who ever lost 10 million sponsors. 367 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 They, I like to feel that they lost me. 368 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Well, at any rate, at that particular time, I was broadcasting about one a week, but being with the AM of LA, 369 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000 I had a very close working relationship with the Airline Planets Association. 370 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000 And the nation's commercial airline planets are pretty found citizens. 371 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,000 And they have a pretty good idea of what they see, and they know just about what should be up there, 372 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 and they know how to watch these things. 373 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000 And as you notice, here's the chief pilot from Pan American Airlines, Mr. William Knight. 374 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,000 He had done a rather methodical job of watching these things and the ones that he saw. 375 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Determining if possible their speed direction and so forth, getting all the information that he could. 376 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:03,000 I used to get quite a few reports from pilots, particularly, and if they were worthwhile, I tried to carry them. 377 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000 You know, if there were anything out of the ordinary, pretty soon, here on the tape that I have, 378 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:13,000 I'm going to let you hear Captain Jack Smith of Chicago and Southern Airlines reporting my long distance telephone to me. 379 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:19,000 But a thing that had just circled his plane over Stuttgart, Arkansas about 15 minutes before he called me, 380 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000 I got to him before the Air Force did. In case you guys are wondering. 381 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:31,000 In 1954, in April 1954, the Pentagon, the Air Force branch in the Pentagon came out with the statement 382 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,000 that 1954, the flying saucers had just about disappeared. 383 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:43,000 They only had about 185 reports in the first three or four months of 1954. 384 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Therefore, the must things must be gone, and there's nothing to them. 385 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:53,000 I knew they were lying and the word is lying because it was a deliberate misrepresentation of facts. 386 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 I personally had turned into the Air Force at the Pentagon. 387 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,000 More than 127 reports up to the time they issued that particular statement. 388 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:07,000 So I had some friends since then, and I get in touch with Lieutenant Colonel John O'Mara, 389 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000 who was with the Air Technical Intelligence Center at Wright Patterson Field. 390 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000 That is the place where they evaluate, they gather and evaluate all these reports. 391 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,000 And on the same days at the Air Force in Washington, they had only 80 some reports. 392 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Lieutenant O'Mara, who evidently hadn't seen that bunch of balmy, said to my friend in the presence of a witness, 393 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:33,000 oh, he said this is the heaviest year we've ever had. We're getting them at the rate of 700 a week. 394 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,000 I put it on the air that night and there was a great deal of official unhappiness. 395 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Now there's been some speculation that I was, that I was fired by George Meany of the AFL because of my saucer broadcast. 396 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 That happens to be a bunch of malarkey. 397 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Actually, I had the saucer broadcast occupied less than one half of 1% of my time. 398 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:06,000 And Mr. Meany was personally responsible for having me write an article on the so-called flying saucers which was published in the AFL News Reporter. 399 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Only a few months before I suffered my relationship with another story, I find the thing is this. 400 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,000 I was the last remaining national source of information on the unidentified flying objects, 401 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:26,000 which were being suppressed by official orders and with the connivance of the nation's three major news services. 402 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000 That was very simple to get the three major news liars to cover it up. 403 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,000 First, the Air Force put out a statement that there was nothing to it that explained everything away. 404 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Some of their explanations read like this. Could this be Venus? Or is this a balloon? 405 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,000 That's considered a solution to the thing. 406 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,000 You answer a question with a question. That's all that's answered. 407 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,000 I was the last major source of information. They issued the statement that the things were all bunkers they do every year. 408 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,000 That says regular is the one they put out that they're building a flying saucer and counter. That's bunk too. 409 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000 But it comes out every year. It's kind of an annual event by Christmas. 410 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:16,000 So, the three major news services were notified that if they would discontinue the practice of carrying these so-called saucer fighting reports, 411 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,000 they'd get some real good top-level stories out of the Pentagon. 412 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Of course, conversely, it was pretty obvious to the news services that if they didn't cooperate, 413 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,000 their opponents would get the big military stories and they'd get left out. 414 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,000 So, the news services cooperated. And to this day, to a very large extent, 415 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:43,000 they're still cooperating. Although, I noticed that the Associated Press recently jumped the gun on this case at Fixley, California, 416 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,000 where an Air Force Convair was flying at 17,000 feet and the pilot said, 417 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,000 it felt like we hit a brick wall and he said that the plane was struck by an unidentified flying object. 418 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,000 In any rate, it was so badly damaged that two of the men on it were injured. 419 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:05,000 One propeller was bent, part of the tail surface was torn off. The plane fell 9,000 feet before the pilot, 420 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000 who was partially stunned by the impact, could get control of it and make an emergency landing. 421 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,000 He landed, told the story to a newsman who happened to be at the Bakersfield Airport. 422 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:22,000 The newsman got it on the wires. The Air Force explanation was, some rivets pulled out. 423 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Pulled out between their interiors. 424 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,000 And the man was amazed by the plane's size. That is, the news became clear today. 425 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,000 The outside was overactive in the observations of some people. 426 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,000 I can't tell you what they are. I don't have answers. 427 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:48,000 And I really don't know anyone outside of the 13th election very quickly. 428 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,000 And so, people with the government knew they had a lot. 429 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,000 I can tell you that, that's how human is. It was the father of the German rocket society. 430 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,000 One of the men who designed the famous German rocket, who used to in the high-up, 431 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,000 and the man who set it to the German society for the investigation about a red-and-white flying object, 432 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 and over the three years, he should have stayed there in 1954, 433 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000 and had some faith that they had come here to conclude it. 434 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,000 But these answers to great military power are not sure. 435 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,000 And that they probably worked up their way by distortion of the gravitational field. 436 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,000 In other words, the thing that converted gravity into a form of musical energy. 437 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,000 That of course is a very special investment coming from the scientists of this time. 438 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000 He didn't make any mistakes. But because, 23 days later, 439 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,000 they put him on a plane and flew into the right snowmobile, that's what's out of Obama, 440 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 and he's a pretty member of government secret, 441 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,000 and he now works for the United States government, doesn't make any more public speeches on that, 442 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000 and I'm going to try and find out. 443 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,000 General Gephard MacArthur, starting December of 1955, is a middle of time, 444 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,000 but the nation's liberal means not worry about what he will rule free, 445 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000 but they have better yet together, General MacArthur, 446 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000 because the next war will be a different planetary war. 447 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:13,000 What he meant by that, I don't know, that's what the state will be making a few strants with us. 448 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:20,000 I see a lot of guidance on the famous, heard of the Royal Air Force, 449 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000 but in February of 1934, with a new opinion, 450 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000 there was no question about the United Planetary Nature, 451 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000 how long I've been a partner. 452 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 There's been many, many more, of course, the opinion is pretty good. 453 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,000 I'm sure it impresses me so much in the last few months, is there? 454 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,000 A time I was in the United States prior to six months ago, 455 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,000 which is in my experience, that's to discuss the unidentified time. 456 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,000 The purpose was to suggest yourself to a great extent and spark out in the criticism, 457 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,000 and you were assigned for our first subject. 458 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000 But something has happened, I don't know what it is, 459 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000 but something has happened and the public mood has changed. 460 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,000 I say that of course there are some people who will believe anything, 461 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000 and others who will believe nothing, 462 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000 but the great hard part of the American people who are willing to be shown 463 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000 and who are at the moment, seems to have arrived by some process, 464 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,000 and the decision that there is some substance to these unidentified time objects, 465 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000 and that the things are real and that they were these considerations, 466 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000 I've read that, I've got to say. 467 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,000 In the last two or three months, I'm on the television station in Indianapolis, 468 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,000 we've covered about two-thirds of Indiana and about half of the seven-half of Illinois. 469 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,000 I am now being showered with invitations to speak to business groups, 470 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,000 like Thomas, Kalana Slavery, Ryan Optimus and similar service groups, 471 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:48,000 and almost without exception, they all asked me to speak to them on the subject of unidentified time objects. 472 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:57,000 A year ago that was a bit unthinkable because a lot of them would have been ashamed to admit that they were attending a speech about nature. 473 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,000 And lastly, I was in jail in Indiana and took the Kalana Slavery, 474 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,000 and at their request, I spoke on the same subject. 475 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,000 They had 127 names, so it was the largest single meaning in the history of that Kalana Slavery. 476 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,000 During the course of the talk, they were very, very attentive. 477 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,000 During the course of the talk, I said, I wonder how many of you here have seen 478 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,000 what you consider unconventional objects in the sky in the last three years. 479 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Would you please hold up your hand? 480 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Out of 127, at 17 members there held up their hands. 481 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000 As you can see, I'm in a state of care of notifying it. 482 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000 I've tried to be an open-minded reporter. 483 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,000 I've tried to report the facts on what appeared to be the facts, and I've told them. 484 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:53,000 And for that reason, I have gone through the years and I still am with the most unidentified, unidentified objects 485 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,000 of how secure and how alive I've been in the most insightful way ever. 486 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,000 I still have the strength to, I don't know how to come down, 487 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,000 but I can continue to report to the best in my ability and journey in time by this, 488 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000 and I'm just going to start with our next few characters. 489 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:21,000 And with my suspicious recollect, this may turn out to be one of the greatest stories of our time. 490 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000 However, I am still going to make mention of the story of our next guest, 491 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,000 who is facing on that part, and I'm sure it may change soon.